Of course I know that. I was just responding to turtle's post. Don't throw me in prision...it was just one off-topic post!!
Of course I know that. I was just responding to turtle's post. Don't throw me in prision...it was just one off-topic post!!
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Hey, I just wanted you to put me on your best friend list.
Roland would have understood.
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I'm glad someone else was having serious trouble with the lengthy flashback, Ricky. And you're right, it's not Roland, it's most of the denizens of Mejis that were boring. That's not the right word, though; they were uninteresting, and what was happening to them was uninteresting. The writing was superb as ever, of course, and there were some very awesome scenes (like the aforementioned bar standoff), but it felt needlessly overlong. After finishing the volume, I appreciated it more than during the time I was reading it, but it still feels odd. I'm now well past the middle of the next book, andSpoiler:
I finished Wizard and Glass a couple days ago!
Looking back on it, it wasn't that bad. I wouldn't mind re-reading it in the future. I now understand that the large flashback was a crucial part of the story but the majority of it was anti-climatic (notice I said majority--not all). I still would have liked the last section, All God's Chilluns' Got Shoes to have been longer than it actually was. I want a reward for getting through the middle sections!
I'm looking forward to start Wolves of the Calla soon.
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Gotta agree on this one, I really struggled to get through it but I knew I had too. I'll be re-reading the series after I'm finished with the 3 books I have lined up already and I'm dreading W&G. Looking back it was very detrimental to the story but I also felt like most of the characters were just not interesting.
Which characters were boring for you?Originally Posted by BeDaN
Roland would have understood.
Pablo,
I'm a King fan first, as well, but I read the DT books as they were released. I, too, found WaG jarring, simply becauseSpoiler:The first time I read it, I was kinda miffed, but once I got through the whole series, I came to appreciate WaG.
Donna
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"What can I tell you, baby? I've always been bad."--Spike
Mainly Susan and everything she was a part of outside of her interactions with Roland. Her struggle with her Aunt and the Meiji's heirarchy (sp) over her commitment just bored me. Maybe after I read it again I will have a new found love for it but during the first read I just kept saying to myself, "When will something interesting happen?"Which characters were boring for you?
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This thread just goes to show how varied the opinions are on all of these books, epecially Wizard and Glass. This one is by far my favorite, because it both humanizes Roland and shows what he will sacrifice to reach the Tower. I have known many who thought its pace was too slow, but I loved it and always look forward to picking it up again.
My least favorite of the series. I was soooo disappointed that the Marvel Dark Tower Series pretty much started with WaG. Very slow.
I'm re-reading the series too. I'm thinking of only reading the beginning and end and skipping the flashback altogether. It was just boring to me.
Why not indeed? That's what I am definitely going to do on my next reread.
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When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To give some counterweight, I so loved this book. I liked every part of the flashback story and for me it made Roland come to life. The smalltown happenings gave me a good idea of everyday life in Roland's world then. I loved the buildup to the end and the inevitable climax. IW&G
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*faints*I'm re-reading the series too. I'm thinking of only reading the beginning and end and skipping the flashback altogether. It was just boring to me.
Roland would have understood.
Agreed. Love this book - it's an essential part of the whole for me.
Also your 'smalltown..' comment - someone above included the Calla folken & their little lives in 'boring' association with W&G, and I couldn't agree less. Even that simple opening of Tian busting his ass (and his plough-pulling sisters) trying to till the untillable, was brilliant. Or the attitude of the small-minded storekeeper, Took. I love the little details. Same for W&G and the ordinary folk of Mejis.
Wizard and glass was easily my favourite. I loved the story and the insight it gave. During the first three books I always wanted toknow more about Roland's past and the consistantly mentioned Cuthbert and Alain. When I began to read Wizard and Glass I was so happy to see it would be nearly all flashback. The good thing about W&G was the way we got to see the shaping of Roland and his origins both as a young gunslinger as well as his early shapings into the man he'd become.
*Faints in the Mejis dust beside Letti**faints*I'm re-reading the series too. I'm thinking of only reading the beginning and end and skipping the flashback altogether. It was just boring to me.
I must say that in the context of the series wizard n glass is my least favorite
BUT like all the other books its still amazing, sai king writes far better that anyone else in the very wide range of the "fantasy/ horror/ sci fi" genres writing within the last 50 years (except tolkien of course)
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
Tolkien didn't write anything in the last 50 years.
children of hurin and the silmarillian were published posthumously, plus the return of the king was published roughly 50 years ago give or take 5 years
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
To me the flashback had the exactly opposite effect, as we'd discussed. To be perfectly frank, I didn't care about Roland's past at all. I cared about his quest, getting to the Tower, and his new ka-tet of Eddie, Susannah, and Jake. Essentially pausing the quest for two books made these books (DT4-5) the worst of the series for me. Not that they're bad books in and of themselves. Just about average.
Right, which means he was dead when they were published.
Fair enough mate. Personally though I think it was important, as it provided the insight into the character, laying down ground roots, building and layering Roland as the complex character he is.
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