The Official End Thread

[Pere Callahan]

I guess my general point is that from the first sentence of the book, Walter is Rolands ultimate adversary. Mordred has trouble controlling his bowel movements In reality, I would choose Walter to outsmart the brat. Also, his confrontation with Roland (if at happened at the very end) would further support the idea that "the ending is the same as the beginning"
I guess in the end some think Mordred is great, while others think him a waste.

[Letti]

I guess my general point is that from the first sentence of the book, Walter is Rolands ultimate adversary. Mordred has trouble controlling his bowel movements In reality, I would choose Walter to outsmart the brat. Also, his confrontation with Roland (if at happened at the very end) would further support the idea that "the ending is the same as the beginning"
I guess in the end some think Mordred is great, while others think him a waste.

I see your point but I can't agree I don't feel the same way.
Roland was a real loner at the beginning. He had nobody he loved nobody and he belonged to nobody. So I don't feel we needed Walter at the end to show the brutality and the reality of the loop.

[Richie]

I havent read the end yet

[Letti]

I havent read the end yet

In this case

YOU'D BETTER leave this thread (and section) immedaitely. Don't spoil your fun. I myself met some spilers before I finished the series and I was really angry with myself.

[Pere Callahan]

Um.....then now would be the time to leave this thread

I hope you were kidding

[Letti]

He wasn't.

Pere - so good to have you here. I am following your posts all around the DT threads.

[Pere Callahan]

Thanks. I stumbled across the site a few days ago. I've got about four years worth of debating on the last book to catch up on. By the way, your points are well taken.

[alinda]

Dont worry he wasnt reading, he was cheating to get his 5 posts in , I am right here with him!

[Cuthbert Heath]

is mordrid in anyway related to the spider in IT

[Pere Callahan]

I don't think so..others may have a different opinion

[Wuducynn]

is mordrid in anyway related to the spider in IT

Distant cousins. Both the Crimson King and Mordred are partly descended from The Great Ones who are shaped like insects and I believe It is a Great One too.

[BeDaN]

My main complaint with Walter after reading The Gunslinger Born was how he was shown to be able to use doors he made to travel to pretty much wherever he wanted. Now I don't own the complete graphic novel yet and I havn't read the other arcs yet so i'm not sure if he was bound by some rules and I'm not sure how much of a part King had in the writing of the comics, but if Walter yearned for the tower so badly, why not just make a doorway to it right away? And I also gotta agree with some of you out there, I didn't care much for how he died, I too would have liked to see a showdown with Roland. But in the end it is the way it is and I loved it.

Did you think that Walter even though he can make doors between worlds/times/places etc that he couldn't make a door to the Tower even if he wanted to?

That's what I mean, they kind of leave it to the imagination. Like I said I haven't finished the arcs yet so I'm not precise on what his capabilities were, that is if they were revealed at all.

[Wuducynn]

A lot of things in the Dark Tower series are left up to the imagination. Having every little detail spelled out and nothing left to mystery would be awfully boring.

[Letti]

A lot of things in the Dark Tower series are left up to the imagination. Having every little detail spelled out and nothing left to mystery would be awfully boring.

And it's impossible as well.
When you write down a sentence you open a door to the imagination in the reader's mind. If you write 10 sentences to explain the one before you give even bigger space to use the fantasy (because the new sentences open new doors).

[Gantoad]

I was both satisfied and dissatisfied. On one hand I find such an ending rather fitting for the nature of the story, with the wheel of Ka and the Tower of Gan. It's apropos. On the other hand, it means I don't get to read anymore of the series, and it leaves me feeling pretty unsatisfied. I want more; and I do not think the journey of Roland has even really begun.

[BeDaN]

Welcome to the party Gantoad

[stone, rose, unfound door]

I didn't take that as a bitter remark at all. Just a smart-ass one.

Ditto here.

[Jackie]

I'm pretty new here so sorry in advanced if this topic A) has been posted and discussed before or B) In the wrong section [I’m pretty sure this is where is goes though but if that isn't the case someone just please move it ]

Ok well we all know Stephen King isn't that great with endings and he has said that him self. The ending to The Dark Tower is a love/hate relationship for me. I think that he should have left it as it was at first. [Roland shouts the names of all those who lives it costed for him to get there, walks in, and the door closes] I personally would have loved that. It would have left so many questions [and probably some angry readers] but it would have kept the mystery and what we envisioned at the top of the tower forever. I know he DID give us that option but i mean come on. After reading the whole series who was going to pass up the ending when it was right there in their hands? I know i couldn't. In another view the ending was good because it left it open for The Dark tower VIII. Though i do know not to get my hopes up. I'll just have to be content with The Gunslinger Born [Read that one], The Long Road Home [Didn't read that yet it's comming in the mail], and The Treachery for now.

Anyway i am curious to what other peoples opinions are on the ending. Did you like, it hate, love it? Was it what you were expecting? Were you expecting more? Were you disappointed? And anything else you have to say on the topic of the ending.

[Just a note: If we could please keep this thread focused specifically on the ending to The Dark Tower alone it would be greatly appreciated on account of i haven't gotten to reading all of Sai Kings books yet and I'm sure a few others haven't yet either. Thank you]

[KaLikeAWheel]

Jackie,

Welcome!

There's a pages long thread along with a poll on just this topic here: http://thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=376. Give it a read. It's a great thread full of fascinating points of view. Happy reading!

Donna

[Jackie]

Ok Donna, thank you i'll be sure to check it out

[Letti]

Jackie, welcome to the site. I hope we can have long palavers with you about everything.
I'm gonne move this thread to DT7 section and later (in some days) it will be merged with the other DTend thread.
(And don't be sorry about it, it's a nice big site, it's not easy to find threads. And we love merging. )

Anyway it's good to read your feelings about the end. I thik your perfect ending [Roland shouts the names of all those who lives it costed for him to get there, walks in, and the door closes] would have killed me.

[BeDaN]

Jackie, welcome to the site. I hope we can have long palavers with you about everything.
I'm gonne move this thread to DT7 section and later (in some days) it will be merged with the other DTend thread.
Anyway it's good to read your feelings about the end. I think your perfect ending [Roland shouts the names of all those who lives it costed for him to get there, walks in, and the door closes] would have killed me.

Amen to that.

[Letti]

Jackie, welcome to the site. I hope we can have long palavers with you about everything.
I'm gonne move this thread to DT7 section and later (in some days) it will be merged with the other DTend thread.
Anyway it's good to read your feelings about the end. I think your perfect ending [Roland shouts the names of all those who lives it costed for him to get there, walks in, and the door closes] would have killed me.

Amen to that.

[KaLikeAWheel]

I know he DID give us that option but i mean come on. After reading the whole series who was going to pass up the ending when it was right there in their hands? I know i couldn't.

Ugh, I know!! I hate that! I'm entirely too curious to pass up reading the whole thing. King did that with another one of his books. (Not going into detail in case you haven't read it yet.) Like I am capable of not reading something that's just one page away. Pfffft! Sai King can be such a booger sometimes!! I still love him, though.

For the record, I felt somehow unsatisfied when I first finished reading The Dark Tower, but once I had time to ponder it, I decided I loved the ending.

Donna

[KaLikeAWheel]

I felt like I always feel after reading a book I love for the first time. I felt sorry it was over, and a bit sad because I can never again experience the newness of reading it for the first time, but mostly I felt like an era in my life was over. I started reading the series when The Gunslinger was first released to the mass market. I was practically still a kid when I started and as I read the last word for the first time I was a mother of three teenagers.

As for the actual last sentence, I've been using this internet handle since about 1996, so I gotta say I thought the ending was great! The moment I read it it just felt right and perfect to me. When I announced to my husband that I had finished, he said, "Good ending or bad ending," and my response was, "Only ending." ::sigh::

Donna