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    *hugs mia/susannah* Thinking deep? I think as deep as a puddle after the light summer rain.

    Brainslinger, I really like your post. It's absolutely fascinating.

    Anyway a new theory has just come to my mind.
    Calvin's great-great-granddad might have dreamt of Gilead and Roland... might have seen other worlds in his dreams because of the rose. Like Calvin.
    Calvin says to Eddie that he does dream of that vacant lot quite a lot but Eddie feels Calvin keeps his secret as well.
    So Tower's great-great-granddad wanted to be sure if that gunslinger he had dreamt of ever visited his world would get any help he would need from his family.

    Roland would have understood.

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    It has always been 'clear' in my mind that Tower's Great-great-grandfather had the letter directly from Steven's father. But was there any direct hint of that in the Books? (I thought there was).
    Ah well, I'll have to read them again & see *bother*


    Brainslinger, what's this..
    Spoiler:
    Eddie/Cuthbert turning up to save young King.

    ... is this more comic 'new-cannon'? Dunno if I'm fond of such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfWesternesse View Post
    It has always been 'clear' in my mind that Tower's Great-great-grandfather had the letter directly from Steven's father. But was there any direct hint of that in the Books? (I thought there was).
    Ah well, I'll have to read them again & see *bother*


    Brainslinger, what's this..
    Spoiler:
    Eddie/Cuthbert turning up to save young King.

    ... is this more comic 'new-cannon'? Dunno if I'm fond of such.
    Brian,

    In Song of Susannah, Roland hypnotizes King and King tells them that Eddie/Cuthbert showed up and saved him from some red spiders when he was a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    Brian,

    In Song of Susannah, Roland hypnotizes King and King tells them that Eddie/Cuthbert showed up and saved him from some red spiders when he was a child.
    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks obscure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfWesternesse View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    Brian,

    In Song of Susannah, Roland hypnotizes King and King tells them that Eddie/Cuthbert showed up and saved him from some red spiders when he was a child.
    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks obscure.
    The old brain-cells are degenerating more rapidly than I'd planned for!
    No problem sir. Its easy to skip over because it doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obscurejude View Post
    In Song of Susannah, Roland hypnotizes King and King tells them that Eddie/Cuthbert showed up and saved him from some red spiders when he was a child.
    Yes, that's the bit I mean. A short part easily forgotten considering all the stuff that happens in that book.

    It's often intrigued me though and I've started a topic for it here in the Song of Susannah section.

    Not sure it'll have much mileage though, but it's fun to speculate.

    Back to the letter, I'll have a peek later, but I'm not sure Roland's ancestor wrote it directly. I think it was actually written by Calvin's ancestor, so Letti's theory concerning the dream makes sense.

    It'd be interesting if there's been direct contact though wouldn't it?
    Spoiler:
    We know the ancients traveled to the keystone earth and other Americas, as do the can-toi. Maybe that's not just a province of the enemy.


    I certainly got the impression in the later books Roland's ancestors, even his father, had more knowledge of his destiny than we were led to believe in the earlier books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainslinger View Post
    .... I certainly go the impression in the later books Roland's ancestors, even his father, had more knowledge of his destiny than we were led to believe in the earlier books.
    Yes, that's exactly right - and only very late in the series (SoS + DT7).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    *hugs mia/susannah* Thinking deep? I think as deep as a puddle after the light summer rain.

    Brainslinger, I really like your post. It's absolutely fascinating.

    Anyway a new theory has just come to my mind.
    Calvin's great-great-granddad might have dreamt of Gilead and Roland... might have seen other worlds in his dreams because of the rose. Like Calvin.
    Calvin says to Eddie that he does dream of that vacant lot quite a lot but Eddie feels Calvin keeps his secret as well.
    So Tower's great-great-granddad wanted to be sure if that gunslinger he had dreamt of ever visited his world would get any help he would need from his family.
    Dang, I really like this theory.

    My friend and I were talking about this tonight. This theory, or the theory that Calvin's grandfather somehow knew Roland's grandfather is the only other theory that works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post

    Anyway a new theory has just come to my mind.
    Calvin's great-great-granddad might have dreamt of Gilead and Roland...
    This popped into my mind, also.
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