Grading: IT

[Hannah]

Pablo, Dont waste time reading anything else until you have read this book!

I concur completely. Reading and especially ranking any other King without having read It is fundamentally flawed. It is the epitome of what King is capable of and I cannot help but judge every other one of his books against it.

I surely will, no doubt.

But that's flawed logic, ranking all books against another. Each should be rated on its own merit and nothing else, in my opinion.

Actually the guy who invented logic would disagree with you. Aristotle poses Oedipus Rex as the perfected form of tragedy in order to discuss the topics in his Poetics. Offering an example of your premise in order to objectify your opinions and respond to rebuttal is a key aspect of inductive logic.

Not trying to be picky here, but Aristotle did not invent logic. He fathered Aristotelian logic. While he may have made popular that particular act of logical discourse and argument, logic was practiced by other cultures as well. Pablo's contention that a book should be rated on its own merits is not illogical. In fact, I would say that this topic could even be a completely new thread, as the subject may be interesting to a lot of people.

Logic was practiced by other cultures? I never thought of that. Other philosophers besides Aristotle? Never thought of that either.

Well of course since Aristotle invented logic those other cultures must have practiced after he invented it.

[ksmithcats]

Obviously one of the top books SK has written in a career of wonderful books. Gave the ending a B, however, because though I was satisfied with the denoument, I was disappointed just a bit in the climax.

[Melike]

All A's, and one of the first King books I had read.

[Django]

AAA

[Daghain]

Sorry, I'm going to blow the curve here. Straight B's, and that was being generous.

[Patrick]

Someday I'll read this book...

[B Rag]

B, A, B.

[Aaron]

Wow, Dags. You didnt think that it deserved an A in at least the Character Development area?

[Darkthoughts]

Straight A's...this book blows me away no matter how many times I read it.

[Jean]

Wow, Dags. You didnt think that it deserved an A in at least the Character Development area?

Bears are very surprised, too.

[obscurejude]

Pablo, Dont waste time reading anything else until you have read this book!

I concur completely. Reading and especially ranking any other King without having read It is fundamentally flawed. It is the epitome of what King is capable of and I cannot help but judge every other one of his books against it.

I surely will, no doubt.

But that's flawed logic, ranking all books against another. Each should be rated on its own merit and nothing else, in my opinion.

Actually the guy who invented logic would disagree with you. Aristotle poses Oedipus Rex as the perfected form of tragedy in order to discuss the topics in his Poetics. Offering an example of your premise in order to objectify your opinions and respond to rebuttal is a key aspect of inductive logic.

Not trying to be picky here, but Aristotle did not invent logic. He fathered Aristotelian logic. While he may have made popular that particular act of logical discourse and argument, logic was practiced by other cultures as well. Pablo's contention that a book should be rated on its own merits is not illogical. In fact, I would say that this topic could even be a completely new thread, as the subject may be interesting to a lot of people.

Logic was practiced by other cultures? I never thought of that. Other philosophers besides Aristotle? Never thought of that either.

Well of course since Aristotle invented logic those other cultures must have practiced after he invented it.

Hannah,

My response to Pablo was half joking. I'm kind of biased when it comes to Aristotle if you haven't noticed, though I'm sure you have since you're a nit picker.

Socrates actually invented formal logic, though its debatable since he never wrote anything down. If we take the early Plato to be Socrates, then works like Ion are good examples.

Aristotle didn't invent a particular logic by his namesake. Because of his differing epistemological approach, he perfected inductive logic because of his emphasis on knowledge that is arrived at aesthetically through the senses (empiricism). Thomas Aquinas is perhaps his best disciple in this regard and his Summa Theologicae is basically an ode to Aristotle's logic as well as all the works of the late medieval scholastics.

Pablo has good points and I'm sorry if anyone took me the wrong way. He said that Jayson was illogical and my point is that he wasn't. It might be a different approach than Pablo's, and there remain merits to both, but it isn't necessarily wrong by being different.

Basically, I should have used a smiley so it would have been more obvious that I was sort of joking.

I argue a lot about Aristotle in school because he's out of favor in many regards and sometimes its hard to turn the switch off. Forgive me if it came across in any negative way.

[Yunsung]

A, A, B. It's a kick-ass book, and from me that's a kick-ass grade.

[obscurejude]

A, A, B. It's a kick-ass book, and from me that's a kick-ass grade.

What brought the ending down to a B? Just curious.

[idk, my bff jill?]

Straight A's.

Simply magnificent.

[BROWNINGS CHILDE]

I think that on rereading, The ending for It was better. Once I saw how the turtle could fit in with the DT world.