We had known Roland and we had met Susan's name time to time before we met her finally.
I didn't imagine her this perfect and I was sure she was younger than Roland but for my part I wasn't disappointed.
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We had known Roland and we had met Susan's name time to time before we met her finally.
I didn't imagine her this perfect and I was sure she was younger than Roland but for my part I wasn't disappointed.
tell you the truth i never thought about her until she actually became a supporting character in book four.:doh:
In physical appearance she is pretty much how I imagined (but I might have gotten that from a brief description in The Gunslinger.) Personality-wise, almost the same, although I didn't really think about her that much. She certainly proved to be a bit feistier than I'd imagine in the book, mostly in her reaction to her Aunt's* provocation.
*Aunt Cordelia. Another very interesting character. She inspired mixed feelings in me, irritation, annoyance, yet I felt sorry for her too. I could empathize with her too. (Not that I'm anything like her.) That's another thread though.
I see. It was only me who had had a Susan in her head before I met her. :rolleyes: Don't think I kept thinking about her... the picture just appeared in my mind.
Anyway I gave her nice brown hair and not blond.
Well if i remember correctly the Oracle showed Roland an image of Susan cause he interrupted right?
Well I imagined her as about a 23 year old, that Roland somehow couldn't save, or maybe she was still alive. I thought that it would be this Susan that book VI referred to "Song of Susannah"
Though I was wrong in that part...
I guess you would imagine her as whatever the perfect woman in your eyes would look like. I imagined her completely different than the books description. I pictured her as pale brunette with shoulder length hair. Something like this:
http://www.humanhairwigs.org/images/brunetteShort.jpg
I didn't give her a whole lot of thought before Wizard and Glass. I was curious about Roland's past while reading book 1 and 2 but not about anything specific really. I wanted to know more but didn't contemplate about Susan specifically.
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Originally Posted by Brainslinger
Precisely what I was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letti
I was pretty eager to get to Wizard and Glass ever since Roland mentioned her in The Gunslinger. I was really curious as to what kind of girl Roland would fall in love with.
I pictured her a lot less whiny.
Haven't gotten too far in the series yet, but I always picture her as my ex-girlfriend, named Susan. Blue eyes and red hair.
I guess that means I see myself in Roland when I read it?
:wtf:
I didn't find her to be whiny in the book. I actually liked the character of Susan a lot. She had her emotional moments, but wouldn't you if you had to get molested by a crusty ass old man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woofer
When I read Wizard and Glass for the first time I was 13 and I don't remember being particularly shocked when I finally read about Susan. Now, at 26, there seems to be a huge disparity between the original Gunslinger and the Susan Delgado of DT 4. I agree about the whining, and I think some of it is that the Gunslinger doesn't really prepare you for an adolescent adventure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woofer
In the original Gunslinger, he seems to think about Alieen more than the "lovely girl in the window."
http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...ead.php?t=1612
I suppose if one had started the series with the Revised Gunslinger, you may have given Susan more thought. *shrugs*
She is totally whiny. :D
I pictured her blonde, natural and beautiful before WAG. Not very different. But I had thought that she would be a very deep character. Maybe a marginal personality...
I recall an old television show, The Virginian maybe, anyway, there was a girl on there with long blond hair, narrow waist, a poofy butt (something under the dress, I believe), Max-Factor eye makeup, (maybe it's Mabelline) but not overdone, like Tammy Fay, skin pure and white, a rancher's daughter, able to ride and rope with the boys, ample cleavage...or are those the memories that developed later, after I turned whatever age it is when boys no longer think all girls have cooties...anyway, I kinda imagined Susan like her...still do, to an extent.
I pictured Susan with an innocently beautiful face and honey-colored hair. I don't remember being disappointed or surprised when I got to know her in Wizard and Glass.
Same.Quote:
Originally Posted by razz
I must say she is probably one of King's most beautiful characters.
I never thought King could do a love story that well, I guess he will continue to surprise me as I still haven't finished this series.
I was really curious to know more about Susan when Roland mentioned her. Especially during the first books when we didn’t know much about his background I was thinking what a girl would be like. In general I liked how SK described her both the appearance and character. However, I thought maybe she would be a bit deeper and play bigger role. Like it was said above maybe she’d be involved in book 6 (but that was about Susannah…)...but I still hope there be something about her in the last book (haven't finished it yet).
I imagined her with dark hair too, before I read it. Either brown or black, I can't quite remember, now I see her with blond lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letti
Amen to that! I just keep wondering what would have happened had her aunt not agreed to Thorin...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady_MacbethI didn't find her to be whiny in the book. I actually liked the character of Susan a lot. She had her emotional moments, but wouldn't you if you had to get molested by a crusty ass old man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woofer
I thought she would be a lot older, someone who Roland knew as an adult in a town he passed through but someone who he had to leave. I thought she would have brown hair for some reason but I didnt epect her story to be told. I didint expect it was an adolescent relationship but since that is what happended I guess it would have more resonance as a first love relaionship rather than something later on in life.
The image I had in my mind was a faceless blond woman/girl standing in a distant window...and for some reason she was wearing a light blue dress. Not sure why...
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by r7anSame.Quote:
Originally Posted by razz
Actually, having been sexually molested by a crusty old man, a slimy young man, a skuzzy young man, and a developmentally disabled young man (at different points in my life and starting at age 11), I'm pretty certain I know what she must have felt on that score. However, I am referring to her whining about Roland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan-TeteAmen to that! I just keep wondering what would have happened had her aunt not agreed to Thorin...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady_MacbethI didn't find her to be whiny in the book. I actually liked the character of Susan a lot. She had her emotional moments, but wouldn't you if you had to get molested by a crusty ass old man?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woofer
haha i kinda see where you come from. having read dt4 first i cannot really post in merit but remembering back i wouldnt have minded if she was a bit more human and a bit less Mary-Sue. but then again this is not a 'what i hate about Susan thread'Quote:
Originally Posted by MacReady
I never gave her any thought until WaG. And I don't like her. Unbridled, teenaged sex does not equate soul mate or true love.
How did imagine Susan before you met her?
Hmmm. Let's see... I pictured her as a beautiful young woman, physically and emotionally strong, confident and sure of herself. That's the kind of "one love" I always thought Roland would fall for.
( boy oh boy was I wrong!! )
I did not think of her too much. She was just a faceless character with no specific personality traits - a young woman (not a teenager) with long brunette hair. I still have trouble imagining her blond.
I don't recall how I pictured her before TDT IV.Once I started to read about her I pictured my first love from high school.She was very attractive and I can relate to Rolands infatuation with a beautiful blonde.I really liked this part of the story because even though they were young love can be very strong at that age,almost overwelming,and I think Sai king nailed this theme.
how did i picture her? i honestly didn't. since he really doesn't even talk about her at all before "Wizard & Glass" cept for saying her name a couple of times. there really wasn't anything to picture. honestly it's hard to even think of "Roland" even being in love with anyone cause he's pretty much a loner as an adult.
so i really never thought to much about if he ever was in love, in fact i never thought about it at all. am i alone in this?
http://www.google.ch/imgres?q=gabrie...An5CgDA&zoom=1
I have never tried posting images here before (first time to this board in a couple of years), but I had always pictured Susan as the young Renee O'Connor who played Gabrielle in the "Xena" TV series. I'm reading "Wizard and Glass" right now for the third time, and this image is still completely in my mind as I picture the character. Obviously, Susan would have been younger than this, but I think the actress was fairly young herself in this image.
Haha, the more I think about this, it's kind of a weird answer—but here it is. Before I read The Gunslinger, I'd only heard little bits and pieces of Dark Tower trivia. I knew it was some kind of post apocalyptic spaghetti western fantasy quest, and that it involved a mysterious cowboy with a pair of long revolvers, a heroin addiction, a woman in a wheelchair, another that gets burned alive, and something about a monorail. I don't think I even really knew that Roland was the main character, but I imagined Susan to look like (and basically be) Karen Allen's character from Raiders of the Lost Ark. I thought she'd be around thirty, brunette, mouth like a sailor, dirty face but pretty blue eyes, putting away Lucky Strikes and blowing the heads off any mutant bandits that came too close. For some reason it was just the kind of character I envisioned fitting in well with the type of story I imagined the Dark Tower to be.
I didn't end up liking the real Susan as much as my mental image, sadly. I was disappointed that she and Roland crossed paths when they were so ridiculously young. It kind of lessens the idea of Roland's continuing grief—yes, it's heartbreaking what happened to Susan, but I find it kind of hard to believe that it's a thousand years later he's still in love with the girl he spent a few months fucking when he was a teenager.
Your last paragraph pretty much sums it up for how I feel about Susan.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupofcoffee
"The first cut is the deepest"
I don't understand how Susan, with her supposed spunk and intelligence, could be talked into a sexual relationship (for money no less) with a dirty old man by her insane aunt. That kind of knocked her down a few notches for me. Also, Roland was what, 14 when he met her? Kind of makes me think Roland uses Susan as an excuse, considering he claims to still be in love with her after all that time.
Only in the retcon Gunslinger is there any extensive discussion about her, so I was not anticipating her at all.
Considering how many people in the world were high school sweethearts who got married and lived happily ever after (as in, without divorce) I'd have to disagree with your post entirely. I think you can find your soul mate or true love at any post-pubescent age.Quote:
Originally Posted by bethany
i used my imagination.
I met my husband when I was 12 and he was 15. He gave me my first kiss when I was 13 and I really believe I fell in love with him at that moment. We remained just friends (aside from that one kiss that is) until I was 17. Just because I was a kid and didn't know anything about how to be in a relationship didn't make my love for him any less real. Even now (after having been married 7 years) I remember nearly every detail of that first summer we spent together. I always imagined Roland's feelings for Susan were made stronger, richer somehow because their relationship was cut down in its infantcy.
(emphasis mine) You say true, I say thankya. I think Roland was/is more "in love" with the idea of Susan and being in love than he actually was/is in love with Susan herself. Her untimely demise got tied up into a whole lot of other drama, and I think that's why it still cut at Roland for so long. If Susan wasn't associated with the fight, the grapefruit, the matricide, etc, then he may have been able to let go more easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by cupofcoffee