So, I just got back from watching Spiderman 3. I had heard varying bad reports ranging from "I was disappointed" to "Don't waste your money." However, I actually greatly enjoyed the movie. Being the huge comic nerd that I am, I generally pick apart movies in typical fanboy fashion, and there were issues that i had with this one. I'll put the rest in spoiler tags for thos who haven't seen it yet.
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I was a bit disappointed that they brough Gwen Stacy into the story because in the comics, Peter dates her, and she dies before he even meets Mary Jane. I was also a bit annoyed that they didn't kill her. In the whole scene where Spiderman was saving her, I was waiting for him to grab her with the webbing and it break her neck. However, Bryce Dallas Howard is beautiful, so I was ok with her being in the movie. :)
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I thought they did a really good job with Sandman. Flint Marko/William Baker was always the reluctant criminal, and they portrayed that well. I also really liked Thomas hayden Church's potrayal of him.
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One thing that was somewhat corney was the portrayal of Peter when under the influence of the symbiote. However, i think the corney stuff, like him walking down the street pointing at all the girls and such was justified. In the comics, the suit makes Peter really cocky, and alternately a dark, brooding asshole. When he is being cocky, we have to remember that he is still peter Parker, which means that he is still a huge fucking dork. His idea of cool and confident would be quite different that the normal idea of it.
He does seem a bit "emo" at times, but he was very much like that in the comics, and that was stuff written before the modern concept of "emo" even existed, so i am ok with it.
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Some people that I have talked to were annoyed that Harry ended up helping Peter, but as I recall, though my memory is a bit fuzzy, there was a point in the comics where Harry, being a very mentally unstable person, goes good for a while, and is friends with Peter again, only to completely snap again later, being worse than he was before. My only issue with the movie was that they killed him before he could snap again bringing the character full circle. Also, it seems that Venom/ Eddie Brock went out entirely too easy, but I don't think that he is really dead. Topher Grace did a good job playing him, though he looked more like Ultimate Venom than the regular continuity Venom, but then again, they didn't do the whole Secret Wars story line either, so, they sort of mixed the two continuities anyway. I just wish he would have had more screen time than he did.
Overall, there were things that bothered me, but almost all comic movies have stuff that bother me, because I pick them apart with fanboy zeal. The only comic movies that I haven't had a huge list of issues with were Sin City and 300, because they both used the Frank Miller comics for story and in some cases actual storyboards. So, I have become used to seeing everything changed around, and putting that stuff aside, I thought that it was quite a good movie.
05-06-2007 12:39 PM
Randall Flagg
I haven't seen it yet, and I'm not sure if I want too.
The reveiwer I trust at The San Francisco Chronicle said:
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f the first "Spider-Man" had a script as weak and muddled as the one for "Spider-Man 3," it's hard to believe it ever would have been made. But with the series a worldwide success -- and especially coming off "Spider-Man 2," which was superb -- the filmmakers can afford a weak entry without having to worry about being punished. The only ones who'll be punished are audiences.
"Spider-Man 2" was a textbook example of how to make a sequel: Deepen it, make it funnier, give it more heart and come up with a strong villain and a good story. "Spider Man 3," by contrast, shows how not to make a sequel. The film takes three bad stories and tries to fashion a narrative out of them. It can't be done.
i wish this thread was in my forum so that i could edit the title.
could someone take care of that? it should be Spider-Man.
thanks!
:D
05-06-2007 02:21 PM
Jorge
Gotcha covered, SJ. :)
05-06-2007 02:30 PM
sarajean
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Gotcha covered, SJ. :)
:huglove:
thanks, dear whore-hay.
05-06-2007 02:54 PM
Fall of Gilead
I thought the movie was awesome. I totally got a kick out of the part detailed in your spoiler #3.
05-06-2007 03:25 PM
Matt
WOOHOO!!
I am glad its cool, I love the eye candy. We're going to go see it next weekend with the kids, belated birthday present for me.
Thanks so much for the spoiler tags Chris.
05-06-2007 06:17 PM
ZoNeSeeK
I was actually a little put off by the 2nd one so Im not sure about seeing the third one, but people ive spoken to have said its worth it. Maybe I should watch the 2nd one again.
05-07-2007 12:50 AM
LadyGan
I thought it great as well!
05-07-2007 11:31 AM
Patrick
I haven't seen the movie yet, so I wanted to commend OchrisO on his excellent use of the spoiler box (chainsaw?) function.
05-07-2007 03:19 PM
Frunobulax
Glad to see the spoiler tags work. I didn't enjoy the first Spider[-]Man film, and saw the second on on TV and thought it was pretty dull. 3 will be for late-nite TBS viewing.
05-09-2007 08:38 PM
John Blaze
i thought 1 and 2 were awesome, and 3 was ok. The problem with it is the same problem we get with SK movies. They can't take a 12 hour story and make it a 3 hour movie, because the viewers lose alot of important shit. I mean, 3 different villains, trying to fit in their backgrounds, motivations, and parker's love interests storyline, it was just too much to handle.
05-09-2007 11:35 PM
towerguard
I turned to my friend during the movie and said "hey, venom turned Spiderman into Trent Reznor"
I liked the movie quite a bit.
05-10-2007 06:29 AM
Matt
We get to go see it Saturday night in the big new theater they built 50 miles away. :lol:
05-13-2007 02:19 AM
VolsToTheWall
I liked it, but not as much as I did the first two, for the reason that others have stated, just a case of stuffing too much stuff in without the neccessary build-up time.
05-13-2007 05:58 AM
Bethany
For some reason, I thought Peter only had spiderlike abilities--the web spinning, climbing, etc. At what point did he become invincible and be able to withstand those wicked beatings? Last time I tried, spiders squish pretty easily.
05-13-2007 08:09 AM
Aaron
Spiders squish easily when paired against a human's foot, but that would be the equivalent of the Empire State Building stepping on Spiderman. My understanding is that he has all of the powers of the spider, hence his great endurance and agility, as well as his toughness. He would be worthless as a superhero if you could just punch him in the nose and take his lunch money.
05-13-2007 08:13 AM
Matt
:lol:
Yep, spiders can fall from great distances and survive a lot of "scaled" punishment to their little bodies.
We saw it yesterday and I was a bit...ummm...meh.
but I think that may have been the theater because I don't like watching a movie with weird people. :ninja:
**gets out his syringe full of bleach**
05-13-2007 01:24 PM
Bethany
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Originally Posted by Aaron
Spiders squish easily when paired against a human's foot, but that would be the equivalent of the Empire State Building stepping on Spiderman. My understanding is that he has all of the powers of the spider, hence his great endurance and agility, as well as his toughness. He would be worthless as a superhero if you could just punch him in the nose and take his lunch money.
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I think Marko's big ass hand made out of the half the crap and dirt of New York would be the equivalent of the Empire State Building falling on you--especially when pounded against you repeatedly.
05-13-2007 08:03 PM
fernandito
Anyone else think that Bryce Dallas Howard is the hottest woman on Earth after seeing her as Gwen Stacy? :wub: x19
05-14-2007 02:16 PM
Matt
Compared to MJ? Hell yeah. MJ looked a little like a crack whore in this one.
02-02-2008 11:06 PM
fernandito
Spider Man 4
Screenwriter James Vanderbilt has confirmed Spider-Man 4!
Tobey will be back. I would imagine that he wouldn't want to see somebody else playing his role. At least I hope so.
Dunst we'll have to see if they even right her in this one. Spidey has other love interests, right?
I'm not sure who I want to be villian but I'm sure I don't want to see Sand Man.
02-03-2008 09:49 AM
Mattrick
This was the situation:
Dunst wasn't doing it unless Mcguire and Raimi were back
McGuire wasn't doing it unless Dunst and Raimi were back
Raimi wasn't doing it unless McGuire and Dunst were back.
Last I heard, McGuire and Raimi agreed to do a fourth one. I love Kirtsten but wouldn't miss her in the series.
All the same, Spiderman 3 was worse than X-men 3 and at the moment, could care less if they make a 4th. If it's not the best one made it will be a disappointment.
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You think so? I think she's average, at best.
That's what makes her so attractive.
02-03-2008 09:49 AM
Wuducynn
Is Spiderman 3 worth watching? I've heard such divided opinions on it.
02-03-2008 09:52 AM
Mattrick
I'll tell you this. Last year, I saw Spiderman 3 on opening day. A few weeks later I wanted to see 28 Weeks Later but my best friend hadn't seen Spiderman 3 yet. He came to see Weeks with me but was upset for a bit we saw that instead of Spiderman 3.
What's the point of this?
A couple weeks ago he watched Spiderman 3, then thanked me for convincing him to see 28 Weeks Later instead. Spiderman 3 is easily the worst of the trilogy.
02-03-2008 10:29 AM
Philzilla
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Originally Posted by Mattrick
I'll tell you this. Last year, I saw Spiderman 3 on opening day. A few weeks later I wanted to see 28 Weeks Later but my best friend hadn't seen Spiderman 3 yet. He came to see Weeks with me but was upset for a bit we saw that instead of Spiderman 3.
What's the point of this?
A couple weeks ago he watched Spiderman 3, then thanked me for convincing him to see 28 Weeks Later instead. Spiderman 3 is easily the worst of the trilogy.
Agreed, which was a big disappointment for me. The first movie was good, the second was amazing, easily one of the best superhero films ever, and then Spider-Man 3 which was a huge come down for the series. To much going on, and Venom. Meh
02-03-2008 06:08 PM
Fall of Gilead
I would love to see them tackle Mysterio. Or maybe just the whole Sinister Six.
02-03-2008 07:21 PM
fernandito
Personally, I would love to see them tackle The Scorpion.
02-04-2008 11:01 AM
John Blaze
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Personally, I would love to see them tackle The Scorpion.
Agreed, the Scorpion and that Doctor that turns into a giant lizard. Best combo there.
02-04-2008 07:00 PM
RUBE
OR... Maybe they should just stop before the Spider-man series turns into the original Batman series. Batman and Robin and Batman Forever were horrible.
Of course, this being said, I would probably still go watch another one.
02-06-2008 08:12 AM
Jimmy
I'd prefer if they'd cancel any ideas for a Spidey 4 and just include him in the Avengers movie they're doing.
02-06-2008 09:36 AM
Matt
I bet the will (and must) now do a "super hero crossover" type movie at some point.
I wouldn't mind Spidey in with the Avengers.
02-06-2008 09:55 AM
Jimmy
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I bet the will (and must) now do a "super hero crossover" type movie at some point.
I wouldn't mind Spidey in with the Avengers.
They are, and both are being released in May and June of this year.
Iron Man will contain NicK Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) with an unknown female (Hillary Swank) accompanying him. They're in the movie to ask Iron Man to join The Avengers.
Then a month later, Nick Fury, the unknown female and Tony Stark will appear in the new Hulk movie.
As it stands "Avengers" will have a cast of Robert Downey Jr. Sam Jackson, Hillary Swank and Edward Norton, plus whoever else is collected as they build towards the Avengers movie.
Jon Favreau has already thrown his hat into the ring to direct The Avengers.
The Thor movie is in pre-production with Matthew Vaughn directing and he's already stated that seeds like the previous ones I mentioned will be planted in Thor for "Avengers" as well.
02-06-2008 04:49 PM
RUBE
Interesting... I wonder if any of the characters will get dumped if their individual movies don't do well.
02-06-2008 10:00 PM
Mattrick
Are they seriously doing a superhero cross over movie? God, shoot me now. Do they think taking a dozen superheros from their own respective, sub par movies and throwing them together will make a good movie? Oh wait, It will make good money so what the fuck does quality matter?