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Best Sci-fi Tournament - Round 2 Group I
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The first four for me:
2001: A Space Odyssey
Donnie Darko
Fire in the Sky
Forbidden Planet
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I think this is the first grouping in which this has happened…
but I haven’t seen any of these movies. :(
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Donnie Darko
Planet.of the Apes
Super 8
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2001
Predator
Videodrome
I've seen Super 8 and Donnie Darko, but I don't think they're next phase material.
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Forbidden Planet has to move on!
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Iwritecode
I think this is the first grouping in which this has happened…
but I haven’t seen any of these movies. :(
Well then you have a lot of great movie watching ahead of you. I'm jealous.
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Donnie Darko
Planet of the Apes
Predator
Super 8
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2001: A Space Odyssey
Forbidden Planet
Planet of the Apes
Predator
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As much as I think Donnie Darko is a great film, I hope Forbidden Planet gets those extra few votes to tie for fourth or overtake it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_Ns-GcnnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK3czDsHZbE
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Still Servant
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Iwritecode
I think this is the first grouping in which this has happened…
but I haven’t seen any of these movies. :(
Well then you have a lot of great movie watching ahead of you. I'm jealous.
The list of movies that everyone else has seen but I haven’t seems to grow by the day. I just don’t have the time anymore.
I just got DirectTV with a DVR in February. So during my 3 free months of having the movie channels I recorded a bunch of movies that I had never got around to watching. I’ve only actually sat down to watch 2 or 3 of them. I’ve had Blade Runner on there for months. I have the original Terminator on there as well because I’ve only seen parts of it.
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It still amazes the heck out of me that 2001 hasn't dominated any of the groups it has been in. I thought for sure it would be the front runner in both. I wonder what this will mean for it going into the next phase...
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fernandito
It still amazes the heck out of me that 2001 hasn't dominated any of the groups it has been in. I thought for sure it would be the front runner in both. I wonder what this will mean for it going into the next phase...
I think a more entertaining film will win. I think I said it in a previous poll, but while that film is a great sci-fi film, at least for me anyways, it wasn't an easy or really an enjoyable film to watch if that makes sense. So I'm not surprised to see that others aren't voting for it as well.
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Right, like I said in one of these polls earlier, this is more of a popularity contest than a real objective ranking of film based on artistic/filmic criteria. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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I voted for 2001 due mostly for its importance to the genre, not so much b/c it was a blast of a film to watch. Thought-provoking, yes, but way way down on my list of "must-see rewatches." Contrast this to Predator, which I've seen maybe 7-8 times.
Both films got my vote, but for very different reasons.
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bears voted Videodrome
have re-watched Donnie Darko and was just as unimpressed as the first time. The only parts I loved were the satire, and it is irrelevant to our present topic.
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How can anyone not put a vote in for Planet of the Apes? The seven of you should be, well, think Landon!
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Jean
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have re-watched Donnie Darko and was just as unimpressed as the first time. The only parts I loved were the satire, and it is irrelevant to our present topic.
Satire is a valid quality in science fiction. Or do you mean that the satire you see in Donnie Darko specifically is what has no bearing?
We agreed to exclude movies that satirize other sci-fi movies, and there are plenty of other possible targets that aren't especially appropriate in the genre, but social criticism is definitely one of the classic functions.
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What's with the ties in this poll? 3-way tie for first, tie for fourth, tie for 6th, haha
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Mattrick
What's with the ties in this poll? 3-way tie for first, tie for fourth, tie for 6th, haha
Shit happens!!
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pathoftheturtle
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Jean
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have re-watched Donnie Darko and was just as unimpressed as the first time. The only parts I loved were the satire, and it is irrelevant to our present topic.
Satire is a valid quality in science fiction. Or do you mean that the satire you see in
Donnie Darko specifically is what has no bearing?
We agreed to exclude movies that satirize other sci-fi movies, and there are plenty of other possible targets that aren't especially appropriate in the genre, but social criticism is definitely one of the classic functions.
oh yes, totally
it's only that in DD it seemed like a nice bonus, but not really relevant; I understand that people appreciate something else about that film, and this something is what I totally fail to see
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Jean
... I understand that people appreciate something else about that film, and this something is what I totally fail to see
Existential despair? Eh, that is, by my theory, more like a type of angsty repressed self-hatred. Many people, young people, at least in this country, carry a lot of free-floating anxiety. Particularly children of the middle class whose parents outwardly seem models of virtue and who are provided with easy material abundance yet loaded with intense pressure to maintain status and gradually uncovering the deprivation in the world from which they've been sheltered. This produces an urge to reject their own privilege, coupled with a fear of the consequences. It's a bit of a relief to identify with the taboo feelings in Donnie Darko -- that at least suggests that you're not the only one. But of course this is all quite negative and rather unproductive; not much to which genuine romantics and activist idealists can relate at all.
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Need just one more vote for Forbidden Planet to force a tiebreaker (better yet, two).
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Videodrome is bowing out :(
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Cannot believe Forbidden Planet has been eliminated....
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pablo
Cannot believe Forbidden Planet has been eliminated....
Looks like Donnie Darko defeated it by just one vote... and one of the people who voted for Donnie Darko was you.
So I guess now you really wish you could go back in time.
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Well, I can recant that vote, forcing a tiebreaker?
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pathoftheturtle
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Jean
... I understand that people appreciate something else about that film, and this something is what I totally fail to see
Existential despair? Eh, that is, by my theory, more like a type of angsty repressed self-hatred. Many people, young people, at least in this country, carry a lot of free-floating anxiety. Particularly children of the middle class whose parents outwardly seem models of virtue and who are provided with easy material abundance yet loaded with intense pressure to maintain status and gradually uncovering the deprivation in the world from which they've been sheltered. This produces an urge to reject their own privilege, coupled with a fear of the consequences. It's a bit of a relief to identify with the taboo feelings in
Donnie Darko -- that at least suggests that you're not the only one. But of course this is all quite negative and rather unproductive; not much to which genuine romantics and activist idealists can relate at all.
did you really see all that in this movie??? do I have to watch it again, because I missed it altogether? I believe it can be found if it is looked for, and hard, like most everything can be read (seen) into everything. On the other hand, you may be right (and sure are), and the problems of middle class American teenagers provided with material abundance is something I totally fail to recognize as existential despair.http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k2...r_original.gif
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I don't see any of that in Donnie Darko and it's one of my favourite films. The directors cut makes everything a little clearer in terms of the science fiction aspects making a bit morr sense. I like the confliction between a doomsday scenario where the end of the world is only known by a mentally ill teenager who already struggles existing in the world he's now somehow obligated to save. The humourous script is a big plus.
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Yeah, the part about equating adolescent discontent with the serious bleakness the film tries to conjure was kind of a joke. It was a surprise hit. I think the target audience is just the kind who see every misfortune as end-of-the-world.
As I stated elsewhere, the Butterfly Effect Director's Cut is just as bad.
