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Best Sci-Fi Tournament - Round 3, Group E
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WOW! I got first comment LOL! LOL! LOL! :D
Easy choice for me:
Return of the Jedi
Alien
Now take that shit to the bank! LOL!
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Invasion of the Body Snatchers and Donnie Darko. I'm sure Alien is going to run away with this one.
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Alien and Dredd. Love Donnie Darko though, but yeah. Gotta vote for Dredd.
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WTF! Donnie Darko is leading Return of the Jedi.... :wtf:
Okay, can someone please explain how the fuck Donnie Darko can be better than Return of the Jedi?
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Return of the Jedi isn't really that great, and this is coming from a huge SW fan. Easily the weakest of the trilogy.
Voted for Alien and Starship Troopers.
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I'm sorry, but regarding Return of the Jedi, just gotta have to quote one of my favourite Spaced moments:
"What about the Ewoks? They were rubbish! You don't complain about them!"
"Yeah, but Jar Jar Binks makes the Ewoks look like...fucking Shaft!"
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Donnie Darko got to a much deeper part of me that Return of the Jedi, Darko still resonates with me while Jedi was just fun and not that memorably, Jedi is much more of a shallow delight in my opinion
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Originally Posted by
T-Dogz_AK47
WTF! Donnie Darko is leading Return of the Jedi.... :wtf:
Okay, can someone please explain how the fuck Donnie Darko can be better than Return of the Jedi?
Because Donnie Darko is awesome and original. AS for Return of the Jedi...I'll let Hurley explain it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQJ_3Gnpso
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Originally Posted by
fernandito
Return of the Jedi isn't really that great, and this is coming from a huge SW fan. Easily the weakest of the trilogy.
Voted for Alien and Starship Troopers.
Ditto this. Same vote.
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Went with Starship Troopers and Body Snatchers.
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T-Dogz_AK47
WTF! Donnie Darko is leading Return of the Jedi.... :wtf:
Okay, can someone please explain how the fuck Donnie Darko can be better than Return of the Jedi?
Because Donnie Darko is awesome and original. AS for Return of the Jedi...I'll let Hurley explain it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQJ_3Gnpso
Apparently Miles didn't listen well enough; "Lost" didn't end up having the tidiest ending either.
Ewoks is just cover - real reason RotJ is unpopular is because people liked the bad guys.
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Starship Troopers
Jedi
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pathoftheturtle
Ewoks is just cover - real reason RotJ is unpopular is because people liked the bad guys.
Whaaa? You lost me.
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fernandito
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pathoftheturtle
Ewoks is just cover - real reason RotJ is unpopular is because people liked the bad guys.
Whaaa? You lost me.
I've heard complaints about Boba Fett's death scene on more than one occasion.
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Ah! Gotcha.
You know, I can't ever recall the Fett thing bugging me that much. I mean, he was a very minor character in the grand scheme of things. I think he's just one of those characters that became much more popular than originally intended because of his great character design, and then went on to have his own comics and fan fiction etc., For those people, going back to revisit the films will always be a bitter sweet reminder of how anti climatic his end really is.
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pathoftheturtle
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fernandito
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Originally Posted by
pathoftheturtle
Ewoks is just cover - real reason RotJ is unpopular is because people liked the bad guys.
Whaaa? You lost me.
I've heard complaints about Boba Fett's death scene on more than one occasion.
Boba Fett? Death Scene? He got out that Sarlac to star in The Mandolorian Armour. Jedi just isn't that great. The Ewoks make the fearsome, indomitable Galactic Empire seem like the most inept military of all time, what we should fear we don't because Lucas wanted to whore himself out to merchandising to kids and make some extra coin. It's unpopular because it was like watching Lucas turn tricks for the first time. That and the twin dynamic which obviously wasn't thought of when Luke revelled in that incestuous kiss.
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Plus Death Star No. 2 which just seemed tired at that point. And then it gets rebuild with the EXACT SAME VULNERABLE SPOT AS THE FIRST ONE. Inept military indeed.
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Aaah, stop ruining my childhood.
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1. Pay attention at least. Come on; when completed, second Death Star would not have been vulnerable. On being tired anyway, you have a point. Real weapons get produced repeatedly, but movies need more novelty.
2. Twins. Ok, a bit lame. But it does fit the line in Empire "There is another." and Leia receiving Luke's telepathic S.O.S. at the end.
3. Watch "Making of the Ewok Adventure" and then tell me again that Lucas didn't sincerely love the damn things; I defy you. He may have been wrong, he may have been the only one, but there it is.
4. Besides, did you say "first time"?! Dude, I already had action figures for every alien with even one second in the cantina. He started looong before, and he didn't have to make them cute for money. An army of worms with different worm costumes would have sold a million.
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It's very good to see that Alien and Return of the Jedi are firmly back in the lead... :clap: :clap:
Indeed, that should be the natural order of things! :thumbsup:
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pathoftheturtle
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3. Watch "Making of the Ewok Adventure" and then tell me again that Lucas didn't sincerely love the damn things; I defy you. He may have been wrong, he may have been the only one, but there it is.
Michael Bay loves the hell of Transformers, doesn't mean the movies still aren't four turds in a little row.
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4. Besides, did you say "first time"?! Dude, I already had action figures for every alien with even one second in the cantina. He started looong before, and he didn't have to make them cute for money. An army of worms with different worm costumes would have sold a million.
There's a big difference between merchandising and merchandising expressly for kids. Lucus realised the only demographic he really didn't have locked down was the 4-12 year olds so he invented the Ewoks. Why shouldn't he love the Ewoks? They made him shitloads of money and spawned spinoffs. Jar Jar Binks was intended to be Ewok 2.0 but instead took the annoyingness of every Ewok and combined it into one lanky creature that killed Ahmed Best's career before it even got started. Future merchandising is never a reason to make your movies a certain way. I can't see the Cantina aliens having been created for the sole purpose of action figure sales and was more of a let's sell what we can while we can, as opposed to spending 1/4 of a film on furry marketeers.
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Yeah no shit he loved the Ewoks, they helped him make a down payment on that beach house he always wanted :lol:
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In the first draft, underestimating the Wookiees was what ended the Empire. Lucas just liked them so much that he had to put one in the first movie even if it meant giving them tech knowledge. Reverse the syllables Ee-wook. That's where they came from. That early. And I know that there was already a lock on 4-12 year olds cause I was there. I went to the first movie at, you guessed it, age 4. Was Lucas thinking of marketing when he made it? Maybe not... but it was Lucas himself who launched and built that business immediately afterward. I'm not trying to argue that the sincere-love-of-story part unquestionably redeems the industry-model-directly-traceable to Transformers 4. I'm only saying that drawing the line just after the first two movies is nonsense.